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	<title>Comments on: Hillary Clinton &#8211; the next US president? &#8211; I&#8217;m not so sure</title>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 04:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Radu,

Yes...the chart is wrong...probably I&#039;ve saved the wrong image.
I will correct it.

Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Radu,</p>
<p>Yes&#8230;the chart is wrong&#8230;probably I&#8217;ve saved the wrong image.<br />
I will correct it.</p>
<p>Dan</p>
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		<title>By: Astrology</title>
		<link>http://www.ciuboda.com/post/hillary-clinton-horoscope-presidential-election-usa/73/comment-page-1#comment-11643</link>
		<dc:creator>Astrology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dan

The chart in the image showed is set a day ahead, for 27 Oct 1946. She was born on 26 Oct 1946 as you said.

Radu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan</p>
<p>The chart in the image showed is set a day ahead, for 27 Oct 1946. She was born on 26 Oct 1946 as you said.</p>
<p>Radu</p>
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		<title>By: ccpup</title>
		<link>http://www.ciuboda.com/post/hillary-clinton-horoscope-presidential-election-usa/73/comment-page-1#comment-10721</link>
		<dc:creator>ccpup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Progressed Venus square Sun is actually a good aspect to have.  With Venus, the difficult aspects are usually found with the inherently tense quincunx and the back-and-forth seeking balance of the opposition.  Furthermore, with the correct 8 AM chart, her Progressed Jupiter is in trine with her Mars/Pluto conjunction giving a great deal of energy to her ability to manifest what she wants, her SA Venus is = her Sun (both Bill Clinton and Bush had Venus-Sun contacts when first elected) and her Progressed Sun is in a trine with what is a Virgo MC with the 8 AM chart.

The past month or so has seen Neptune opposite her Saturn, slowly dissolving that which she thought was solid, as well as Tr Chiron first square her Natal Chiron, then opposite her Pluto/Mars and finally square her Venus.  

But with Saturn now retrograding over her MC -- to revisit that angle in August when he moves direct --, she will probably have learned to do more with much, much less:  less money, less words, less of those things she found security in (Saturn).  And Tr Chiron is now square Barack Obama&#039;s Ascendant and Michelle&#039;s Neptune.

Interestingly, the same day (March 10th) Tr Saturn leaves her 4 Virgo MC (the 8 AM chart), he&#039;s immediately trine her Progressed Sun as Tr Mars moves to trine her Natal Sun.  Does not seem like the &quot;privately licking one&#039;s wounds&quot; chart you&#039;d expect if someone left the Race. 

Then Tr Saturn sextiles Hillary&#039;s Natal Sun beginning in mid-March before stopping to station all the way through May within 1 degree of this sextile ... the same time he&#039;ll be stationed square Barack Obama&#039;s Moon (with a 1:06 PM chart) and opposite Michelle Obama&#039;s Venus -- with Neptune currently affecting his Mars by quincunx and her Saturn by conjunction.

I&#039;ve always believed this Primary Season would come down to Pennsylvania and, with her continuing on until April, I still believe it will.

Interestingly, her Progressed Ascendant begins a conjunction with the US Pluto in early-May, continuing on for the next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Progressed Venus square Sun is actually a good aspect to have.  With Venus, the difficult aspects are usually found with the inherently tense quincunx and the back-and-forth seeking balance of the opposition.  Furthermore, with the correct 8 AM chart, her Progressed Jupiter is in trine with her Mars/Pluto conjunction giving a great deal of energy to her ability to manifest what she wants, her SA Venus is = her Sun (both Bill Clinton and Bush had Venus-Sun contacts when first elected) and her Progressed Sun is in a trine with what is a Virgo MC with the 8 AM chart.</p>
<p>The past month or so has seen Neptune opposite her Saturn, slowly dissolving that which she thought was solid, as well as Tr Chiron first square her Natal Chiron, then opposite her Pluto/Mars and finally square her Venus.  </p>
<p>But with Saturn now retrograding over her MC &#8212; to revisit that angle in August when he moves direct &#8211;, she will probably have learned to do more with much, much less:  less money, less words, less of those things she found security in (Saturn).  And Tr Chiron is now square Barack Obama&#8217;s Ascendant and Michelle&#8217;s Neptune.</p>
<p>Interestingly, the same day (March 10th) Tr Saturn leaves her 4 Virgo MC (the 8 AM chart), he&#8217;s immediately trine her Progressed Sun as Tr Mars moves to trine her Natal Sun.  Does not seem like the &#8220;privately licking one&#8217;s wounds&#8221; chart you&#8217;d expect if someone left the Race. </p>
<p>Then Tr Saturn sextiles Hillary&#8217;s Natal Sun beginning in mid-March before stopping to station all the way through May within 1 degree of this sextile &#8230; the same time he&#8217;ll be stationed square Barack Obama&#8217;s Moon (with a 1:06 PM chart) and opposite Michelle Obama&#8217;s Venus &#8212; with Neptune currently affecting his Mars by quincunx and her Saturn by conjunction.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always believed this Primary Season would come down to Pennsylvania and, with her continuing on until April, I still believe it will.</p>
<p>Interestingly, her Progressed Ascendant begins a conjunction with the US Pluto in early-May, continuing on for the next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Yves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve got the wrong time for Hillary Clinton&#039;s birth chart. It has been rectified and is widely thought to be 8:02AM, Libra Lagna. Please re-analyze her chart based on this. 

See:
http://modernvedicastrology.com/node/163

http://www.councilvedicastrology.org/featured_article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve got the wrong time for Hillary Clinton&#8217;s birth chart. It has been rectified and is widely thought to be 8:02AM, Libra Lagna. Please re-analyze her chart based on this. </p>
<p>See:<br />
<a href="http://modernvedicastrology.com/node/163" rel="nofollow">http://modernvedicastrology.com/node/163</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.councilvedicastrology.org/featured_article" rel="nofollow">http://www.councilvedicastrology.org/featured_article</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no way Hillary is a 5th house person. She just doesn&#039;t fit the 5th house personality profile, especially when this house&#039;s people tend to be much more natural and seek to shine in their true light. Hillary is too evasive, secretive and sleek for the 5th house. She&#039;s more of a 12th house high dreamer, as a time of 8 AM makes her.
http://www.astrologyindepth.com/The_5th_house
http://www.astrologyindepth.com/The_12th_house
By the way, a Tarot reading I have made seem to have her taking the democratic nomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no way Hillary is a 5th house person. She just doesn&#8217;t fit the 5th house personality profile, especially when this house&#8217;s people tend to be much more natural and seek to shine in their true light. Hillary is too evasive, secretive and sleek for the 5th house. She&#8217;s more of a 12th house high dreamer, as a time of 8 AM makes her.<br />
<a href="http://www.astrologyindepth.com/The_5th_house" rel="nofollow">http://www.astrologyindepth.com/The_5th_house</a><br />
<a href="http://www.astrologyindepth.com/The_12th_house" rel="nofollow">http://www.astrologyindepth.com/The_12th_house</a><br />
By the way, a Tarot reading I have made seem to have her taking the democratic nomination.</p>
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		<title>By: Mahesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mahesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 07:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May i say- There is no neptune in Vedic Astrology. And if there is neptune, uranus or pluto then it is NOT Vedic astrology. Vedic comes from the Vedas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May i say- There is no neptune in Vedic Astrology. And if there is neptune, uranus or pluto then it is NOT Vedic astrology. Vedic comes from the Vedas.</p>
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		<title>By: ccpup</title>
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		<dc:creator>ccpup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 01:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The birth chart itself is incorrect.  Many are using the 8 AM chart -- the 8 PM having been debunked by now -- and, with yesterday&#039;s hostage situation in her campaign offices in NH coinciding with the Moon crossing her MC, it would make sense.  Recalculate her chart with the new time and see what comes up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The birth chart itself is incorrect.  Many are using the 8 AM chart &#8212; the 8 PM having been debunked by now &#8212; and, with yesterday&#8217;s hostage situation in her campaign offices in NH coinciding with the Moon crossing her MC, it would make sense.  Recalculate her chart with the new time and see what comes up.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaphan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaphan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve miscalculated the chart; you&#039;ve accidently calculated it for 27 September.  On the 26th, the Moon-Neptune opposition was 12 degrees, too wide an orb, IMO, for it to be significant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve miscalculated the chart; you&#8217;ve accidently calculated it for 27 September.  On the 26th, the Moon-Neptune opposition was 12 degrees, too wide an orb, IMO, for it to be significant.</p>
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		<title>By: JC Adive</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC Adive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having read your interpretation I must say that you did a good job on her Moon-Neptune aspect and that it might bring all the illusions in her world. 

Do you know anything about her relationships with her mom?

what can you say about the square from Saturn and Mars in Leo to Venus and Mercury in Scorpio? has these aspect affected her beginnings? Not to metion that mercury is rather her chart ruler.

what about the stellium of mars, pluto and saturn - all in Leo... has it not affected the road to success?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having read your interpretation I must say that you did a good job on her Moon-Neptune aspect and that it might bring all the illusions in her world. </p>
<p>Do you know anything about her relationships with her mom?</p>
<p>what can you say about the square from Saturn and Mars in Leo to Venus and Mercury in Scorpio? has these aspect affected her beginnings? Not to metion that mercury is rather her chart ruler.</p>
<p>what about the stellium of mars, pluto and saturn &#8211; all in Leo&#8230; has it not affected the road to success?</p>
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		<title>By: R.E. Dillon</title>
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		<dc:creator>R.E. Dillon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pluto transiting her Descendent?  The Seventh House is the place of open enemies and destruction coming at her from them.

This Neptune and Moon structure which creates an illusion of inevitability (&quot;WHEN I AM PRESIDENT.&quot;) does not sit well with Americans of all stripes and places.
We Americans like cockiness (Reagan) if it is confident and good natured, but we abhor ARROGANCE, especially calculated arrogance.  Senator Specter commented the other day that we Americans have a hard time accepting people who are overtly calculating.  Hillary Clinton reminds me of the villain in a Peter Falk Columbo murder mystery.  And Giuliani reminds me of Columbo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pluto transiting her Descendent?  The Seventh House is the place of open enemies and destruction coming at her from them.</p>
<p>This Neptune and Moon structure which creates an illusion of inevitability (&#8220;WHEN I AM PRESIDENT.&#8221;) does not sit well with Americans of all stripes and places.<br />
We Americans like cockiness (Reagan) if it is confident and good natured, but we abhor ARROGANCE, especially calculated arrogance.  Senator Specter commented the other day that we Americans have a hard time accepting people who are overtly calculating.  Hillary Clinton reminds me of the villain in a Peter Falk Columbo murder mystery.  And Giuliani reminds me of Columbo.</p>
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