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	<description>Life and astrology. A personal point of view.</description>
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		<title>By: Dhilip Kumar</title>
		<link>http://www.ciuboda.com/post/fatal-car-accident-astrology/190/comment-page-1#comment-102717</link>
		<dc:creator>Dhilip Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The planetary period belongs to RAHU Main period, VENUS sub period and JUPITER sub sub period. RAHU on the date of accident occupied the same sign and degree as that of Natal Moon. From Moon Transit Saturn is in the 8th house (ASHTAMA SANI) feared in India by even those who have no idea of Astrology.  Hence the accident happened on 26 which adds up to 8. Dates of 8 get dangerous during Ashtama Sani. Ashtama Sani is when Transit Saturn moves in the 8th house from Moon Sign.

http://knol.google.com/k/saturn-transit-on-september-10-2009#

Cast the chart using Indian Method. Of course Moon is in the 8th house but as the 2nd lord only. The Ascendant is GEMINI (MIthuna Lagna). Moon is in Marana Sthana. Jupiter is a full Maraka. Venus occupies the star of Jupiter (Poorvabhadra) and hence connected to death. RAHU is in the 12th house. In Maharshis Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra Rahu in in the 12th house is considered very negative. The lord of the 21st Drekkana is VENUS. So the accident happened in the sub period of Venus. 

An astrological discussion without planetary period like dasha, bhukti, and antara is not worthy.

Pluto has nothing to do with it. The Ancient masters of  Astrology in India did not consider it and rightly so, today Pluto is kicked out of the planetary system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The planetary period belongs to RAHU Main period, VENUS sub period and JUPITER sub sub period. RAHU on the date of accident occupied the same sign and degree as that of Natal Moon. From Moon Transit Saturn is in the 8th house (ASHTAMA SANI) feared in India by even those who have no idea of Astrology.  Hence the accident happened on 26 which adds up to 8. Dates of 8 get dangerous during Ashtama Sani. Ashtama Sani is when Transit Saturn moves in the 8th house from Moon Sign.</p>
<p><a href="http://knol.google.com/k/saturn-transit-on-september-10-2009#" rel="nofollow">http://knol.google.com/k/saturn-transit-on-september-10-2009#</a></p>
<p>Cast the chart using Indian Method. Of course Moon is in the 8th house but as the 2nd lord only. The Ascendant is GEMINI (MIthuna Lagna). Moon is in Marana Sthana. Jupiter is a full Maraka. Venus occupies the star of Jupiter (Poorvabhadra) and hence connected to death. RAHU is in the 12th house. In Maharshis Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra Rahu in in the 12th house is considered very negative. The lord of the 21st Drekkana is VENUS. So the accident happened in the sub period of Venus. </p>
<p>An astrological discussion without planetary period like dasha, bhukti, and antara is not worthy.</p>
<p>Pluto has nothing to do with it. The Ancient masters of  Astrology in India did not consider it and rightly so, today Pluto is kicked out of the planetary system.</p>
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		<title>By: rakesh singhal</title>
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		<dc:creator>rakesh singhal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>our analysis of this case is at this link.

http://lifescapeastrology.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=lifescapes:fatal_car_accident_ascella_blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>our analysis of this case is at this link.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.ciuboda.com/post/fatal-car-accident-astrology/190/comment-page-1#comment-73538</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks HaroldAntares for your input!

I really appreciate your answer!  

And you dont have to look only though medieval astrology lens to see the real danger of this person :)

Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks HaroldAntares for your input!</p>
<p>I really appreciate your answer!  </p>
<p>And you dont have to look only though medieval astrology lens to see the real danger of this person <img src='http://www.ciuboda.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Dan</p>
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		<title>By: HaroldAntares</title>
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		<dc:creator>HaroldAntares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at the same chart, just knowing my astrology a bit better, I would point out that the Moon in the 8th is peregrine, and in Aversion (the worst possible thing) to the Ascendant, which you pointed out is... dangerous. And also you noted that it squares Saturn, with the question &quot;bad luck??&quot; attached.

Let&#039;s look at this in detail to get rid of confusion; because you are right, but seem to lack the knowledge of exactly why this is so.

What sign rules Aquarius? Saturn, of course. And so the Moon, in awful condition in the 8th, is applying a dexter square unto its ruler, which is also peregrine in Scorpio, the sign of death. This is a diurnal chart, and Saturn is severely Out of Sect, which means that Saturn is unable to properly function, totally without ability. Saturn is also the detriment of the Ascendant, Cancer. This is looking really bad for the native...

So the Moon is deadly, peregrine, and appling to the ruler of the 8th death, Saturn, in the sign of death, which is the detriment of the Ascendant, meaning that the Ascendant has both the Moon and Saturn working against it, in an anti-life way, and these planets are so important to her life to begin with.

I use Whole Sign Houses to assign topics, and another house system to measure the strength of the planets dynamically (as is the proper, ancient way). The 6th house, place of injury and suffering, is Sagittarius and Jupiter is found angular and strong, but unfortunately in its depression, Capricorn. This makes it go through Saturn.

You mentioned Mercury opposite Pluto in the natal chart. This is ridiculous. They&#039;re out of sign, and very wide. There are other things to look for. Don&#039;t overly focus on the outer planets. The inner planets give more information, considering we&#039;ve known about them for thousands of years. You have to use greater detail instead of being so vague. Astrology is deeper than you present it.

Looking into older forms of astrology will help you. Medieval, for example. I say this because, looking through this lens, this person&#039;s life was clearly in danger. The keyword in that sentence is &quot;clearly.&quot;

Also, Secondary Progressions are not ti be used in comparison with the natal chart; Solar Arc Directions are. 

Hope this information helps you. I hope you understand every single thing that I wrote, and if you don&#039;t, you will research it. I didn&#039;t even mention the hyleg or alcochoden, which give the entire story, I am sure! Peace be with you.

HaroldAntares</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the same chart, just knowing my astrology a bit better, I would point out that the Moon in the 8th is peregrine, and in Aversion (the worst possible thing) to the Ascendant, which you pointed out is&#8230; dangerous. And also you noted that it squares Saturn, with the question &#8220;bad luck??&#8221; attached.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at this in detail to get rid of confusion; because you are right, but seem to lack the knowledge of exactly why this is so.</p>
<p>What sign rules Aquarius? Saturn, of course. And so the Moon, in awful condition in the 8th, is applying a dexter square unto its ruler, which is also peregrine in Scorpio, the sign of death. This is a diurnal chart, and Saturn is severely Out of Sect, which means that Saturn is unable to properly function, totally without ability. Saturn is also the detriment of the Ascendant, Cancer. This is looking really bad for the native&#8230;</p>
<p>So the Moon is deadly, peregrine, and appling to the ruler of the 8th death, Saturn, in the sign of death, which is the detriment of the Ascendant, meaning that the Ascendant has both the Moon and Saturn working against it, in an anti-life way, and these planets are so important to her life to begin with.</p>
<p>I use Whole Sign Houses to assign topics, and another house system to measure the strength of the planets dynamically (as is the proper, ancient way). The 6th house, place of injury and suffering, is Sagittarius and Jupiter is found angular and strong, but unfortunately in its depression, Capricorn. This makes it go through Saturn.</p>
<p>You mentioned Mercury opposite Pluto in the natal chart. This is ridiculous. They&#8217;re out of sign, and very wide. There are other things to look for. Don&#8217;t overly focus on the outer planets. The inner planets give more information, considering we&#8217;ve known about them for thousands of years. You have to use greater detail instead of being so vague. Astrology is deeper than you present it.</p>
<p>Looking into older forms of astrology will help you. Medieval, for example. I say this because, looking through this lens, this person&#8217;s life was clearly in danger. The keyword in that sentence is &#8220;clearly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, Secondary Progressions are not ti be used in comparison with the natal chart; Solar Arc Directions are. </p>
<p>Hope this information helps you. I hope you understand every single thing that I wrote, and if you don&#8217;t, you will research it. I didn&#8217;t even mention the hyleg or alcochoden, which give the entire story, I am sure! Peace be with you.</p>
<p>HaroldAntares</p>
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		<title>By: astroleila</title>
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		<dc:creator>astroleila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Here you easily notice that progressed Sun in on perfect opposition with natal Pluto.&quot;

Out of all the aspects and house positions you mentioned, this seems to me to be the big flashing red light. Poor girl...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Here you easily notice that progressed Sun in on perfect opposition with natal Pluto.&#8221;</p>
<p>Out of all the aspects and house positions you mentioned, this seems to me to be the big flashing red light. Poor girl&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks yuzuru...I&#039;ve changed to 2008!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks yuzuru&#8230;I&#8217;ve changed to 2008!</p>
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		<title>By: yuzuru</title>
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		<dc:creator>yuzuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;On the 26th of December 2009 she was involved in a car accident.&quot;

I assume you mean 2008 :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On the 26th of December 2009 she was involved in a car accident.&#8221;</p>
<p>I assume you mean 2008 <img src='http://www.ciuboda.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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